[adambr2]

I suppose we could keep all the debates/arguments/discussions here.

Loe has signed at $2.175M, Marcum and the Brewers have filed with a midpoint of $7.725M, and Veras' midpoint is $2.1875M. Keep in mind that Braun's 2012 salary will be reduced proportionately to how long he is out if suspended (just under $2M).

Also I am not trying to project the 25 man roster yet, I know it's not going to be exactly this, just taking some guesses and penciling some guys in near the bottom of the roster who would probably have similar salaries to their counterpart replacements either way.


Starters:
1) Greinke - $13.5M
2) Gallardo - $5.5M
3) Marcum - $7.725M
4) Wolf - $9.5M
5) Narveson - $480,000
Total: $36,705,000


Bullpen:
CL) Axford - $480,000
SU) Rodriguez - $8M
RP) Veras - $2.1875M
RP) Loe - $2.175M
RP) Estrada - $480,000
RP) Parra - $1.3M
RP) Braddock - $480,000
Total: $15,077,500.

Lineup:
CF) Morgan - $2.35M
RF) Hart - $9M
1B) Gamel - $480,000
2B) Weeks - $10M
3B) Ramirez - $6M
SS) Gonzalez - $4.25M
C ) Lucroy - $480,000
LF) Braun - $6M
Total: $38,560,000

Bench:
CF) Gomez - $1.9625M
3B) Green - $480,000
C ) Kottaras - $950,000
OF) Aoki - $1M
IF) Farris - $480,000
Total: $4,872,500

Miscellaneous:
Aoki negotiating fee - $2,500,000
Total: $2,500,000

Rotation: $36,705,000
Bullpen: $15,077,500
Lineup: $38,560,000
Bench: $4,872,500
Miscellaneous: $2,500,000
Total payroll: $97,715,000

EDIT: Updated figures to reflect new minimums salaries of CBA and substituted Parra for Dillard and added actual agreed salary for Loe, and midpoint figure for Marcum. Replaced Schafer with Aoki. Added salary for Aoki. I also added a miscellaneous category which currently just has Aoki's negotiation fee. Going to leave things out of this like Wolf's deferral as we don't really know the terms of that or how long that is spread out, and things like draft signing bonuses. I would count buyouts but I don't think we have any to pay for this year. I believe Betancourt and K-Rod's buyouts were paid for by the Royals and Mets.

[Macha Man]

Just so you know, with the new CBA the minimum MLB salary is $480K this season, so that would change the values for a couple guys.

[adambr2]

Ah, thanks for the update Macha.

So that will change things, but very minimally -- probably half a million difference or so.

[shirt]

Probably add Parra at 1.3 and take out maybe Dillard?

[Macha Man]

Nothing set yet, but Melvin said he is "close" to a deal with Aoki, a couple hours before the deadline.

[adambr2]

Thanks, forgot about Parra.

Okay, so sub Parra for Dillard or maybe Braddock and the projection probably changes to about $92M.

[Macha Man]

Crazy that one setup guy is going to account for well over half our bullpen pay.

[Macha Man]

Jon Heyman reporting on Twitter that the Aoki deal is all but done, and is a multi-year deal. Things just being finalized.

[adambr2]

Does that $2.5M that we paid for negotiating rights with him count towards his eventual deal, or is that just dead money?

[Macha Man]

Does that $2.5M that we paid for negotiating rights with him count towards his eventual deal, or is that just dead money?

Don't think it can, as that posting fee goes to his team in Japan, not him or his agent.

[shirt]

Does that $2.5M that we paid for negotiating rights with him count towards his eventual deal, or is that just dead money?

It's money spent on the 2012 MLB Payroll. I'm sure I'm going to get spit on for this, but I would include it on this year's payroll.

And no, its not part of his deal.

[shirt]

Crazy that one setup guy is going to account for well over half our bullpen pay.

Well, we still have a long way to go before that actually happens. There are for sure some outliers on the team who could be traded to clear up some room.

[medicalgary33]

Crazy that one setup guy is going to account for well over half our bullpen pay.

A lot of teams pay 8 mil for their closer, and 500k for their set up, so its really no different. What helps, is at the price, whether buyers or sellers, we can strike a deal at the deadline for KRod, and not lose our current closer

[Scoots0303]

AdamMcCalvy Adam McCalvy
Kameron Loe gets $2.175 million plus performance bonuses: bit.ly/zOq5aX #Brewers

Just a little more than your projection.

[adambr2]

Yeah, if we are going to look beyond just what the player salaries are for this year, we can't forget about the negotiating price for Aoki, which adds another $2.5M. Also I believe that we owe Wolf $4M in deferred money from 2010 this season which if you add both of those in brings us up to $98,782,500.

Assuming Aoki has signed will pretty assuredly put us over $100M in total costs which will probably bring things to a halt unless payroll is dumped somewhere with Wolf or K-Rod.

[shirt]

We've never seen what happened with Wolf's differed money, have we? For all we know it could be spread out over a few years.

[Scoots0303]

JonHeymanCBS Jon Heyman
marcum filed at $8.7M, brewers at at $6.75M. #crew

[adambr2]

Well I way lowballed Marcum's salary estimate then. Going to update it to midpoint.

[Fan174]

We've never seen what happened with Wolf's differed money, have we? For all we know it could be spread out over a few years.

Well, I read from you it was deferred to this season initially.


Either way, they Brewers are a damn near lock to break 100 million.


****Ahhhhhhhh and fans head hits the pillow...refressed from a two year argument.

[Fan174]

Does that $2.5M that we paid for negotiating rights with him count towards his eventual deal, or is that just dead money?

It's money spent on the 2012 MLB Payroll. I'm sure I'm going to get spit on for this, but I would include it on this year's payroll.

And no, its not part of his deal.

Why would you get spit on. I'd look at it a a player option year. If they pick it up, it's part of their paryoll. If not, he doesn't counnt.