This vid makes me feel bad for the guy. His mother and father were both crack addicts, no wonder he cant get his shit together. Still, he was given multiple chances, and fucked up each time.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9LX7Uo0B50[/youtube]

It's easier to rip someone when you don't see how you see the struggle with your own eyes.

SI interviewed JaMarcus Russell a couple weeks back, and he didn't seem like a bad person in there.

Kareem Copeland wrote this today:

Jolly is free on five years of deferred adjudication — a form of probation — after he reached a plea agreement on the initial codeine possession charges for 2008. The March 2011 charge was dismissed when the plea was settled.

So he just needs to get reinstated by the NFL.. Because he signed that tender with the Pack in 2010, he is their property right now. There is a small chance we have Johnny Jolly for a playoff run. He looked HUGE in that video though, So I doubt he touches a field this season.

What about the late September arrest? Is that part of this too?

Also Jolly was under indefinite suspension even before the two arrests this year. I don't think they will be reinstating him anytime soon with that in mind, until he shows something to indicate that he's cleaned up.

From what I am reading, it looks like he avoided Jail time. He has been out of football for almost 2 years, I think the NFL will give him a 2nd chance.

Look at all the thugs they have playing, Jolly didnt kill dogs, rape women or run over a pedestrian while drunk.. I think his chances are good.

That being said, I think the chances of him taking up a roster spot on the Packers is slim. It would take him several weeks to get into shape, so you have to cut someone to have a guy who cant contribute for 6 to 8 weeks on your team.

Tough to do.

Nevermind he just cuts in 6 years in prison

What a shame.

I do feel terrible for him, but this was his 3rd time. He had 2 previous chances to go get himself right and get treatment. Eventually you've got to pay the price. Just life.

Addiction is a bitch. I hate to see him waste 6 years for a disease...but it is what it is. What a shame

I think the biggest shame about all this is that he's probably now locked himself into a lifetime of this. Conservatively assuming he'll do about 4 years of hard time, get out when he's 32, probably broke with little hope of still having any years in the NFL. So what will he do, probably go back to the only thing he's ever known.

He'll be eligible for parole in 14 months.

Best case scenario is that he'll be a model inmate, make parole in 14 months, stay clean, get reinstated, and make it back to the NFL and get his life back on track. But the odds are really stacked again him.

Best of luck JJ, it's a shame that it had to come to this, but maybe it will save you in the end.

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette ... y=obinsite

Jolly got another 6 years tacked on, but it's running concurrently, not consecutively, so it really has no impact on his sentence.

Not sure if it will hurt his eligibility for parole or not.

adambr2 wrote:http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20111216/GPG0101/111216095/Johnny-Jolly-Packers-drugs-codeine?odyssey=obinsite

Jolly got another 6 years tacked on, but it's running concurrently, not consecutively, so it really has no impact on his sentence.

Not sure if it will hurt his eligibility for parole or not.

Chukk would know better, but you'd have to think that it would hurt his chances in 14 months. That it would at least push it back a LITTLE bit.


Addiction is a bitch. I hate to see him waste 6 years for a disease...but it is what it is. What a shame


It really-really is. The problem is, for me, as much as I defend and like the guy as a player, and it seems as though he's a pretty decent dude overall, he tested positive BEFORE being suspended. I don't doubt that made his life spiral out of control, but obviously I can't buy the part where that was the driving force. It was there before you ever got in trouble with the NFL.


I do think we're literally Johnny Jolly away from a Super Bowl. I think a big, athletic, play making DL would make this entire team so much fucking better, it would be a whole different defense.

But that's in the past now.


At least A-He hasn't yet OD'ed and died, and
B-he's earned a pension from the NFL so far.

I would like to see him have a chance to come back, he could be ready to do so in time for the 2013 NFL season if he only does like 20 months. And contrary to popular belief, I don't think the Packers just shun anyone with any type of problem. They don't want punks or thugs to come in and be the types to start fights, or grope women*ahem*Underwood*ahem....

But I think they'd be open to giving him a shot at redemtion.

http://www.totalpackers.com/2012/02/18/ ... son-video/

Update from prison.

So tough to see a guy who threw his whole life away for a drink.

He obviously has messed up, but I hope that he beats his addiction in prison. It sounds like from the details of the case that the problem was his addiction, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that he was dealing. Even though I think by the letter of the law they charge you with intent to distribute based on how much you're caught with, I hope they consider what his actual intent was when his parole comes up.

Best possible way this story could end -- Jolly stays in shape in prison, is paroled next January, has his suspension lifted, and goes on to have 3-5 dominant years in the NFL.

It's not the most likely scenario, but if Vick and Burress both got shots at redemption, Jolly deserves one too if he gets out in time.

http://www.totalpackers.com/2011/10/06/ ... nny-jolly/

Expanding on that Rodgers think the league deserves some of the blame for not giving Jolly a chance after serving that first years suspension. I think it sounds like a valid point. You take away what a guy loves and he's more likely to sink deeper into his addiction.


BUT-I didn't know about his sister before. He DID have more to stay clean for. His sister who got fucking MURDERED ended up asking him just months before to take care of her two children if anything happened to him. Now he seems like a good guy, but I have less sympathy when you have two young kids counting on you.

You had a chance to put them in a good neighborhood, to provide them the type of chance to be productive and just grow up well. He has a mother who looks like she's doing well. Money isn't everything, but not having any money IS. So he let down a whole lot more than just a team, organization and fan base IMO. He could have been a father to his sisters children and he fucked that up.

But, by the way, to address a comment by BD before, not sure if I mentioned this, but you were talking about how tough it'd be to use up a roster spot on him.

I think a couple things would have to happen.

Obviously the first ones, released-reinstated.

But THEN, we'd certainly recind the tender and we'd likely to offer him a 2 year deal for maybe 1.2 million. Just over the league minimium....

Then those 6-8 weeks you talked about him needing to get himself into shape, just throw him on the PUP list which allows you 6-8 weeks to make a decision about putting a player on injury reserve for the year.

And the contract would OBVIOUSLY be non-guaranteed. But it'd give us TWO years as he should be greatful to get a chance, and it'll likely take him a full year before he's back up to speed, so he might help at the end of the season and then perhaps help the rest of the following year.


Then maybe the gold at the end of his rainbow is a 2-3 year deal worth 3-4 million that should be able to set him up for the rest of his life.

Adam posted a rule change being discussed this week about roster exemptions...

If it goes through, Jolly would be a good candidate if he is out next year.