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Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby The Stache on Apr 20th, 2011, 12:25 pm

Source: Cubs and Nationals Have Discussed Marlon Byrd

The Washington Nationals are taking a tour around baseball, looking for a possible upgrade in center field, according to Ken Rosenthal. With Rick Ankiel, a platoon player at best, currently manning the spot, and club officials undecided on the future of AAA outfielder Roger Bernadina, it’s understandable that the Nats would be considering an upgrade.

That’s where the Chicago Cubs come in.

A Major League source informs me that the Cubs and Nats have “had discussions” about Cubs’ center fielder Marlon Byrd. With top prospect Brett Jackson tearing up AA, and with the hope that Jackson is the future in center field for the Cubs, the team is willing to consider moving Byrd in the right deal. Byrd, 33, is off to a slow start, with a mere .658 OPS through 16 games. Still, he is solid defensively, and was an All Star last year. Byrd is in the second year of a three-year contract, and is making $5.5 million this year (with easy incentives that should push that figure to about $5.6 million) and $6.5 million next year.

It’s unclear what the Cubs would be seeking in return, though it’s unlikely they could expect a haul of prospects. Two possible names are first base prospect Tyler Moore and pitching prospect Brad Peacock. Neither is considered a big-time prospect.

Moore, 24, was a 16th round draft pick by the Nats in 2008, and had an .873 OPS last year at High A. Peacock, 23, was a 41st round pick by the Nats in 2006, and has worked his way through the Nats’ system, reaching AA last year, where he was just so-so. For his minor league career, Peacock sports a career 4.41 ERA and 1.337 WHIP, primarily as a starter.

The Cubs and Nats have a recent history of putting trades together after the two sides came together this Winter on the Tom Gorzelanny deal. One thing I don’t know is how far talks have progressed – whether they are simply exploratory in nature, or whether the two sides are actually in negotiations. These kind of discussions probably happen dozens of times throughout the season and we simply don’t hear about them (and nothing ultimately happens). So, odds are, nothing happens (I know, how convenient).

Still, it’s the kind of rumor that makes a whole lot of sense.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2011/04/2 ... rlon-byrd/
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Marlon Byrd?

Postby The Stache on Apr 20th, 2011, 12:26 pm

Its bleacher nation, so not sure how credible of a source he has. But he does start of the article saying "Usual rumor caveats apply - I trust this source, but you can never be 100% sure about these things. Still, you're all big boys and girls, and you can evaluate the information for yourselves."

Interesting nonetheless
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby The Stache on Apr 20th, 2011, 12:39 pm

If Marlon Byrd is traded for less than at least one top 100 type prospect, I will be upset. The guy is a 3 WAR CF with a very nice salary. The names discussed in that article are disappointing. Neither Fukudome nor Colvin have the glove to play CF regularly. So unless the Cubs feel that BJax will be ready very soon this year, the Cubs have no incentive to do a deal this early.

Id wait till the deadline.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby Boozer1011 on Apr 20th, 2011, 1:54 pm

Well, he was only a 2.2 WAR for baseball-reference WAR....they're not nearly as high on his defense and looking at his previous years of UZR, he's probably average to above average.

I don't think you'd get a top 100 guy for him. I think he's overrated in Cubs fans eyes.

I would be happy with a 'B' prospect and a throw in...
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby The Stache on Apr 20th, 2011, 1:59 pm

Would the 2 guys mentioned in the article fall under "B" category? They just don't seem to be all that impressive. Moore had a nice OPS but hes 24 and only in High A.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby marmol kd you on Apr 20th, 2011, 1:59 pm

Would it immediately clear a path for Jackson or would Colvin play CF full time?
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby Cubsfan4life11 on Apr 20th, 2011, 2:08 pm

We better not! Thats all I can say
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby Boozer1011 on Apr 20th, 2011, 3:11 pm

The Stache wrote:Would the 2 guys mentioned in the article fall under "B" category? They just don't seem to be all that impressive. Moore had a nice OPS but hes 24 and only in High A.


Not sure, but in terms of Cubs prospects, how about someone like a DJ or a Jae-Hoon Ha? Not top 100, but still decent prospects.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby BassmanUW on Apr 20th, 2011, 3:23 pm

In my opinion, any conversation regarding Byrd should be in the very early stages for each of these teams. For example, Washington saying: If we're still in it in the NL East in a couple of months and you guys are not in the NL Central, what would you be looking for in return for Marlon Byrd?

With that said, a trade for Marlon lead by a DJ LeMahieu or Jae Hoon Ha type I think would be fair.
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Postby The Stache on Apr 20th, 2011, 3:25 pm

BassmanUW wrote:With that said, a trade for Marlon lead by a DJ LeMahieu or Jae Hoon Ha type I think would be fair.


Most definitely
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby Old Style on Apr 20th, 2011, 3:45 pm

Byrd for Bryce Harper straight up.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby l2uff on Apr 20th, 2011, 3:46 pm

trade doesn't make since at this time for the Cubs unless they believe Bjax is ready - which he might be....
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby BassmanUW on Apr 20th, 2011, 4:10 pm

I'd rather not rush B-Jax and wait at least until mid-June to avoid Super 2 status (although I know that might change in the next CBA).
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Postby BassmanUW on Apr 20th, 2011, 4:12 pm

Old Style wrote:Byrd for Bryce Harper straight up.


I think we should definitely require Strasburg as a throw in on that.
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Postby Old Style on Apr 20th, 2011, 6:02 pm

BassmanUW wrote:
Old Style wrote:Byrd for Bryce Harper straight up.


I think we should definitely require Strasburg as a throw in on that.


Ol Deadarm? Definitely.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby tripxcore on Apr 20th, 2011, 6:19 pm

Not sure how I feel about this. If it happens, Hendry better get a decent prospect in return.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby The Stache on Apr 20th, 2011, 10:13 pm

BJax may be ready.

Another monster game from him tonight. Single shy of the cycle. 3/4, HR, 3B, 2B, 3 RBI, BB, R. Hitting .419 in 55 PA
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby Old Style on Apr 21st, 2011, 8:55 am

Isn't that AA though? I'd like to see him moved up to AAA now, so he can get some at bats at that level before jumping to the majors. Not everyone can make that jump like Starlin did.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby The Stache on Apr 21st, 2011, 10:02 am

Old Style wrote:Isn't that AA though? I'd like to see him moved up to AAA now, so he can get some at bats at that level before jumping to the majors. Not everyone can make that jump like Starlin did.


I don't think Jackson's a guy that needs time at AAA. I'd much rather see him face the Jarrod Parker's, Chris Archer's, and the Matt Moore's of the world than the Ramon Ortiz's and Doug Davis's.
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Re: Rumor: Cubs and Nats Discussing Byrd Trade?

Postby sedgy145 on Apr 21st, 2011, 11:22 am

Old Style wrote:Isn't that AA though? I'd like to see him moved up to AAA now, so he can get some at bats at that level before jumping to the majors. Not everyone can make that jump like Starlin did.


We kind of touched on this subject yesterday....maybe two days ago. I know Boozer and Bassman were in on it. We briefly discussed the difference between AA and AAA pitching and whether BJax needs to make a stop at AAA. Castro will be much more of a higher impact player than BJax will (in my opinion) and that's why he was able to make that huge jump and succeed so quickly. I like to think that BJax is almost at the same level. I like to believe and think BJax can make that jump to the majors and succeed. Like Stache said, I'd rather him face the high ceiling, yet raw top prospects that are currently in the Southern League.
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